At least you spoke the truth on 2Way but I admire that you wrote the article also taking ownership of your party's stance. Love listening to you on the show.
Sorry, Dan. Former Democrat here and I will never forget nor forgive the danger that the party put the country in. I voted for Trump in ‘24 after having voted for Biden in ‘20 & Clinton in ‘16. I had friends (now former) who were hysterical that I could even think of voting for Trump. The party forced us to vote for him by offering first, Biden and then a totally incompetent Harris. The party is corrupt beyond salvation. I watched Trump’s amazing trip through the Middle East and the incredible speech that he gave in Saudi Arabia. Peace through strength & trade. There isn’t any way that Biden or Harris could have done anything like that.
Dean Phillips is the only Democrat who I could possibly vote for. He was the only person who put country before party or personal gain.
My father used to say, “You were baptized a Catholic but you were born a Democrat”! He would be ashamed of the party to which he was loyal all his life.
Today’s news of Biden having a PSA of 9 out of 10 betrays reality. No man in this country who has had a PSA test thinks you find out when you are 9 out of 10 without years of increasing numbers. Biden’s doctors have been covering this up for years. If he has been on Lupron due to a metastasis to the bone, It would explain memory loss. Are we not getting valid medical information from the President’s(or past) doctors? Is this another coverup? One that I think is worse than the first coverup. Does anyone in DC tell the truth? Put O’Connell (I think that’s Biden’s medical Doc in the WH, under oath and demand accountability!
This is excellent Dan. The only thing I would say is that it isn’t that he was too old, it’s that his cognitive decline was too great. There are many people his age or older, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney etc who are fit as fiddles. Joe has had two brain aneurysms in his life that I also believe have led to a lot of his condition now. But the piece is very well done. 👍
They ask of us to look forward, still not getting it.
We're like a cheated spouse to whom the cheater says "get over it" and never have any conversation.
Not even talking about the obvious questions, like who was really governing, perhaps they need to realize that lying to people who know they're lied to isn't the brightest strategy.
Trust is a pass/fail binary. You're either trustworthy, or you're not. This piece is great. Reading it I felt myself becoming optimistic about the future... of journalism but also of our country. I honestly think the public would instantly forgive anyone who wrote a piece like this. We WANT to trust the press! Then reality came seeping back in. No one is going to say anything like this. And as Joe continues to decline there will be new, worse examples of his decline. Journos/pundits/politicians will say wow he's gotten really bad, he wasn't this bad back in '24! And everyone will move on while the vaunted 4th estate continues its descent into total irrelevance while "alternate" news grow their audience even more.
Excellent essay! I do wish the media would admit culpability for the cover up as well. The msm’s hatred for Trump has really clouded their credibility and we need a free and fair media, particularly now.
Excellent piece and so important for Dems to see it's ok for us to talk about difficult things. Next up - let's talk about children being born in the wrong bodies and men in women's spaces. I think it's the only way forward.
The truth is always best no matter how painful or embarrassing it might be. While I applaud and agree with what you’ve written, the Democrats perpetuated the lying and misdirection, the msm by not reporting the truth failed miserably. How can the voters believe anything the msm says about any politician? They’ve done irreparable damage to their credibility. What a sad state of affairs for this great country!
@danturrentine on the @2waytvapp morning show, you asked what Dems could do regarding the Biden decline and cover up. It’s simple; take the L, own their role and be accountable.
What do we teach our children to do when they make a mistake?
Certainly not….deny, deny, double down with their friends to gaslight us that it never happened, deny, deny and then tell us we need to look forward when they’re caught red handed and we confront them!
IMO the dems (actually all elected officials or govt employees who swear to uphold an oath and serve the people) need to take individual responsibility for their role and practice accountability for the actions before trust can be rebuilt.
If the average American behaved like this at work or in their individual relationships, it’s reasonable to expect they would suffer consequences. Probably disciplined, if not fired and lose relationships.
Yet, these politicians continue to deny, ignore, gaslight and any blame that is acknowledged is placed elsewhere (The Biden White House, Congress, The Dem party, etc) and they get away without taking any individual responsibility for their actions.
So to answer your question, I ask for those who participated to do the following (on an individual level):
1. acknowledge the reality we all saw
2. take an honest inventory of their actions and the role they played
3. Publicly take responsibility and be accountable to the people they mislead and those that they are supposed to be serving
I realize I’m asking a lot of politicians. Which brings me to my final point, the fact that The People are held to this standard and while the politicians get away with it explains the 27% approval rating.
The entitlement and hypocrisy that has been on display is gross and frustrating. More than that it’s sad and so disappointing for our future.
Dan, Strong start towards honesty and humility on behalf of Ds. America will be a stronger nation with credible alternative political options on offer.
To that end, maybe a series of op-eds (you, Harold Ford, Rahm, etc.) called The Revitalist Papers. Not sure there’s enough material for 85 essays, like Hamilton et al., but a project of that magnitude might go a long way to have open-minded, critically thinking Americans give the Ds a shot. There’s enough evidence, imho, that this is an existential crisis for the D party.
For many of us, the Biden acuity scandal (and its likely tentacles involving negative policy outcomes and poor crisis response) represents one of a larger set with which Ds and/or government apologists need to reckon, including:
Dan, I wish more in your party (my former party) were like you. The Democratic party is risk averse, relying on PR and polling, to edit their messaging. Messaging has little to do with reality or truth, and so you've become the party of bland Sophistry--academic discourse more intent on being right than doing the right thing.
Thank you for taking a step toward virtue, and for your great work on 2-way.
At least you spoke the truth on 2Way but I admire that you wrote the article also taking ownership of your party's stance. Love listening to you on the show.
Honestly an excellent essay 👏 Bravo 👏
Love that you took the suggestion and wrote it down!
Sorry, Dan. Former Democrat here and I will never forget nor forgive the danger that the party put the country in. I voted for Trump in ‘24 after having voted for Biden in ‘20 & Clinton in ‘16. I had friends (now former) who were hysterical that I could even think of voting for Trump. The party forced us to vote for him by offering first, Biden and then a totally incompetent Harris. The party is corrupt beyond salvation. I watched Trump’s amazing trip through the Middle East and the incredible speech that he gave in Saudi Arabia. Peace through strength & trade. There isn’t any way that Biden or Harris could have done anything like that.
Dean Phillips is the only Democrat who I could possibly vote for. He was the only person who put country before party or personal gain.
My father used to say, “You were baptized a Catholic but you were born a Democrat”! He would be ashamed of the party to which he was loyal all his life.
Today’s news of Biden having a PSA of 9 out of 10 betrays reality. No man in this country who has had a PSA test thinks you find out when you are 9 out of 10 without years of increasing numbers. Biden’s doctors have been covering this up for years. If he has been on Lupron due to a metastasis to the bone, It would explain memory loss. Are we not getting valid medical information from the President’s(or past) doctors? Is this another coverup? One that I think is worse than the first coverup. Does anyone in DC tell the truth? Put O’Connell (I think that’s Biden’s medical Doc in the WH, under oath and demand accountability!
This is excellent Dan. The only thing I would say is that it isn’t that he was too old, it’s that his cognitive decline was too great. There are many people his age or older, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney etc who are fit as fiddles. Joe has had two brain aneurysms in his life that I also believe have led to a lot of his condition now. But the piece is very well done. 👍
Excellent point. You are right. I need to stop saying too old!
They ask of us to look forward, still not getting it.
We're like a cheated spouse to whom the cheater says "get over it" and never have any conversation.
Not even talking about the obvious questions, like who was really governing, perhaps they need to realize that lying to people who know they're lied to isn't the brightest strategy.
Trust is a pass/fail binary. You're either trustworthy, or you're not. This piece is great. Reading it I felt myself becoming optimistic about the future... of journalism but also of our country. I honestly think the public would instantly forgive anyone who wrote a piece like this. We WANT to trust the press! Then reality came seeping back in. No one is going to say anything like this. And as Joe continues to decline there will be new, worse examples of his decline. Journos/pundits/politicians will say wow he's gotten really bad, he wasn't this bad back in '24! And everyone will move on while the vaunted 4th estate continues its descent into total irrelevance while "alternate" news grow their audience even more.
Excellent essay! I do wish the media would admit culpability for the cover up as well. The msm’s hatred for Trump has really clouded their credibility and we need a free and fair media, particularly now.
Excellent piece and so important for Dems to see it's ok for us to talk about difficult things. Next up - let's talk about children being born in the wrong bodies and men in women's spaces. I think it's the only way forward.
The truth is always best no matter how painful or embarrassing it might be. While I applaud and agree with what you’ve written, the Democrats perpetuated the lying and misdirection, the msm by not reporting the truth failed miserably. How can the voters believe anything the msm says about any politician? They’ve done irreparable damage to their credibility. What a sad state of affairs for this great country!
Now who is brave enough to take this ball and run with it? Honest and insightful. Maybe you should run!
Great question.
I’d vote for him, and I’m a conservative.
Same. 👍🏼
I tweeted this at you last week…so thank you!
@danturrentine on the @2waytvapp morning show, you asked what Dems could do regarding the Biden decline and cover up. It’s simple; take the L, own their role and be accountable.
What do we teach our children to do when they make a mistake?
Certainly not….deny, deny, double down with their friends to gaslight us that it never happened, deny, deny and then tell us we need to look forward when they’re caught red handed and we confront them!
IMO the dems (actually all elected officials or govt employees who swear to uphold an oath and serve the people) need to take individual responsibility for their role and practice accountability for the actions before trust can be rebuilt.
If the average American behaved like this at work or in their individual relationships, it’s reasonable to expect they would suffer consequences. Probably disciplined, if not fired and lose relationships.
Yet, these politicians continue to deny, ignore, gaslight and any blame that is acknowledged is placed elsewhere (The Biden White House, Congress, The Dem party, etc) and they get away without taking any individual responsibility for their actions.
So to answer your question, I ask for those who participated to do the following (on an individual level):
1. acknowledge the reality we all saw
2. take an honest inventory of their actions and the role they played
3. Publicly take responsibility and be accountable to the people they mislead and those that they are supposed to be serving
I realize I’m asking a lot of politicians. Which brings me to my final point, the fact that The People are held to this standard and while the politicians get away with it explains the 27% approval rating.
The entitlement and hypocrisy that has been on display is gross and frustrating. More than that it’s sad and so disappointing for our future.
Dan, Strong start towards honesty and humility on behalf of Ds. America will be a stronger nation with credible alternative political options on offer.
To that end, maybe a series of op-eds (you, Harold Ford, Rahm, etc.) called The Revitalist Papers. Not sure there’s enough material for 85 essays, like Hamilton et al., but a project of that magnitude might go a long way to have open-minded, critically thinking Americans give the Ds a shot. There’s enough evidence, imho, that this is an existential crisis for the D party.
For many of us, the Biden acuity scandal (and its likely tentacles involving negative policy outcomes and poor crisis response) represents one of a larger set with which Ds and/or government apologists need to reckon, including:
Lawfare, Covid, media cabal.
Deuce Publius has a lot to write!
Well done. Glad you to MH up on this. Great idea. Hope it gets picked up and published.
Dan, I wish more in your party (my former party) were like you. The Democratic party is risk averse, relying on PR and polling, to edit their messaging. Messaging has little to do with reality or truth, and so you've become the party of bland Sophistry--academic discourse more intent on being right than doing the right thing.
Thank you for taking a step toward virtue, and for your great work on 2-way.
Dan Turrentine believes the problem with America is Joe Biden.